********** 9/16/95 3:09 PM Forum CO R 9 : *SYSTEM* | Switching to Recent & Relevant Mike | /users | / | Hello anissa b. ali | hi Mike | Hi Michelle C. | hi mike Mike | How are you, MIke Michelle | Hi Anissa | How are we all doing? Michelle C. | good mike Mike | How do you like the Forum? Michelle C. | i like it a lot | too much in fact | i feel at home Mike | (smile) That's good! | Anissa? Michelle C. | so are you going to talk 'puters? Mike | Yep 'bout puters? Ask any questions you want Michelle C. | what is archie and the like for www sandra m. gardner | hi Mike | There is so much out ther. Hi Sandra how are | you? | Michelle Archie is... sandy | hi mike. i'm looking for the conference on | the internet. is this it? Mike | used for finding Files on the Internet. WWW | are Display screens for Ads. HI Sandy! This | is it! | Ask all of your Internet Question (and those | of people you know) right here! sandy | thanks. Mike | Welcome everyone! | Every Question is important! sandy | i am on a 286 with 2.5 ram (i think) using | dos 3.3. what should I upgrade to to be able | to access othe internet? Mike | Michelle Archie will help you when you don't | know a file name or where it is. | Sandy you can access with just what you have | and a regular terminal program. Here is the | scoope... | If you need to access parts of the Internet, | you can do so here on Compuserve... | Email is first... | Everyone has access and it's free now.. | When you want WWW / World Wide Web Access, | then Sandy you may want to get more Ram.. sandy | I realize I can do email and the forums, but | I want broader access - to everything I can | get my hands on Mike | (yes Ram was the correct word) | Sandy then you want to explore the NewsGroups | and the World Wide Web as well... | The News Groups are just like Forums... sandy | how? Mike | Except it is just exchanging messages with | others almost like email... sandy | i mean, how do i get to them, please? Mike | Here on Compuserve you can type the | following.... | GO INTERNET... | and you will get a menu of things you can do, | BUT you must first download the Internet | Software Netlauncher if youdon't have it. Michelle C. | i have Mike | You will be given a menu to do so as well. Michelle C. | newsgroups are fun as is www Mike | Michelle how do you like it? | Michelle have you seen my WWW site? Michelle C. | still learning www | not yet | what's the address? sandy | thanks. I believe checked netlauncher, and a | 286 \with dos 3,3 isn't enough to run it Michelle C. | but i love the job board there Mike | http://haven.ios.com/~homanm/ | Sand... | YOu can get dos 6.0 to upgrad Dos and just | add more Ram about 2meg more.. Michelle C. | got it | being saved in wincim--info that is Mike | Also you would need windows if you don't have | it already. I DON"T believe you have to get | another PC (from 286). sandy | thanks, mike. sorry to interrupt, michelle Michelle C. | please ask sandy Mike | No problem jump rignt in, we (me especially) | are all learning about this Internet thing. Michelle C. | been around for awhile! Mike | Great! | You can show us some stuff! | What Newsgroups to you like? | There are so many to Read. Like a how lot of | Email all at once! | Yes C-serve has Newsgroups they are the same | ones all over the Net. Michelle C. | i like the gossip newsgroup sandy | mike, since you know about computers, could | you please comment on the advice someon in | another forun gave me, to access the net, Mike | By C-serve having the Newsgroups it helps | members learn the Internet, without learning | a | new system. sandy | to get a pentium 100, 16 bytes of something, Mike | Oh Michelle , you like the "hot" stuff Michelle C. | sort of :) Mike | Sandy, | You can get the Pentitum... | If that is want the type of Access that is | faster... | I taught a Seminar and told the people in | the audience... | Get a System Upgrade if your current one does | not do what you want it to... | I don't have a Pentitum... Michelle C. | neither do i | 486-33 | doesn't modem speed have a lot to do with | access? Mike | But my system does what I need for now, When | I get bigger needs, I'll upgrad. Mich, | believe it | or not, I typing now on a 386. Michelle C. | instead of the system? | too slow for me :) sandy | I did get a new modem - got to 28,8 from | 2400 bps Michelle C. | my system is almost 3 years old Mike | Michelle, Yes Modem Speed is important! Michelle C. | already a relic | my 8086 is a dinosaur Mike | Sandy you just jumped up lite years ahead sandy | my computer is 10 yrs old, guys | I had to fight to get it! Mike | hehe | I have one that is almost over 10 years | still. A Radio Shack Model 100. | They don't make'm no more | So it depends on your needs at the time. sandy | i was told i need a 1 gigabyte hard disk, | too. what do you think? Mike | Sandy, ONLY if you are storing a lot of | information on your computer and running out | of | space. sandy | I don't even know how to store anything | except mail in the in-basket yet Mike | IF you find you are deleting a lot file, then | maybe you want more space, BUT... | your may not need a GiG maybe only 1/2 a GIF | 500meg or so. sandy | I see Michelle left. Mike | As long as or mail is stored ok you're good. | When you start storing more info Files and | Stuff | you can check your space. sandy | thanks, mike Mike | No problem glad to assist! sandy | I'm gonna run along now. hope to talk to you | again (3rd Sat next month? with some upgrades | in hand Mike | Yes 3rd Sat Next monthl Take Care! sandy | I will bye! doris henderson | Hi Again Mike! Mike | Hi ! | Glad you made it! doris henderson | Yes, I was surfing through the library. Mike | How do you like the forum? doris henderson | So far it's been very helpful and I've had | some pretty good conversations on alot of | issues | with many people | Do you like it? Mike | Great! | Yes I love it! doris henderson | What topics interest you the most? Mike | I do weekly lesson on the Information Highway | in Section 12 doris henderson | Wow! Where have I been? I could use a lesson | on the Information Highway! Mike | There is a file called IHLESSON.ZIP that I | created. It's in Section 12's Library. doris henderson | Ok, I've got that marked down so I'll have to | check it out in the near future. Mike | Yes, how you enjoy it and can join in on my | Weekly Lessons! doris henderson | When and what time do your lessons begin? Mike | You will find them at least by Sunday Evening | of Each week in Section number 12. The | Subject is always the same, "Info Highway | Lessons". doris henderson | Ok, thanks for the information. So, do you | work on computers as a part of your job or | is it a hobby? - Visitor | hi, what's the topic? doris henderson | Information Highway Lessons Mike | It is both! . I own my company as the | sole proprietor currently, Holman's World is | my | DBA. I do online Consulting, Value Added | Reselling, WWW Pages and more! - Visitor | great. I'm a novice tell me more Mike | Hi Visitor, it's Internet Learning. Give us | at least a first name - Visitor | Annie doris henderson | Yes, tell us more Mike! Mike | Hi Annie. Ask away for info need on using the | Internet (Doris too). We are all learning | (especially me) | The Internet... | is very big!... | When we speak of it, we are talking about | various parts of it. The most popular... - Visitor | I have the spry mosaic connection through | compuserve. Are there groups like this for | talking | on the internet and how do you tap into them. Mike | being Email. You can get Email here on CIS, | at work, at a University. etc. It's still a | part of the | Internet. If you only want Email, and have it | at one of those listed. You have some | Internet! doris henderson | How can i get WWW? Mike | There are Usenet News Group Annie, as well as | forums, such as this. Section 12 Info | Highway is one. You can download WWW Software | here on CIS Doris. (Go Internet) doris henderson | How much does it cost? Mike | The program is Net Launcher which is Spry's | Mosaic, mentioned by Annie. | With Compuserve's Acquisition of Spry and | "Internet in a Box", it free for the | downloading. doris henderson | How much for usage?. Information is not free! Mike | Compuserve I believe has included Internet | Usage with the Free 5 hour allowance in the | new | pricing plan. doris henderson | Yeah!!!!!! Mike | Yes!!! | Compuseve just got better! doris henderson | I agree! Mike | Back in the early 80's on CIS I could not see | this day coming doris henderson | Back in the early eighties, the only time I | saw a computer was on TV! Mike | Heheheh! | I had my TRS-80 Color computer with a plug in | cartride connected to my TV to get get CIS | doris henderson | I'm soooo glad they are a bit more affordable | for me now. | Wow, it sounds like you had a museum piece! Mike | Yes and prices will drop even lower. | Yes! Museum piece for sure. My sister still | has it! doris henderson | Well, I bought my first computer last year | and already it's obsolete. | I bought it right before the pentium | processors came out. Mike | I believe it. Technology is moving fast! doris henderson | There seems to be this trend in computer | sciences and in programming. Everyone... | wants their computer to be faster and more | accurrate. Speed seems to be the answer to | everything - Visitor | hi, I'm back. Sorry I'm at work and have to | leave | when duty calls. doris henderson | Hi again, I was wondering what happened to | you. We are talking about the "Information | Age. - Visitor | I do not understand downloading. What | exactly | does that mean? Mike | Hi hear ya. even Pentiums are not that fast. | Annie Understood. Duty is Duty | Annie, Downloading is taking information (a | file) from the Comuter here on Compuserve and | sending it to your Computer so you can use it. - Visitor | Can downloading cause a virus in the computer | and can I download to a disk? Mike | I upload (send a file from my PC ot | Compuserve) here in the forum so others can | download ( | send the file from compuserve to their PC's) doris henderson | That's a good question Annie. I've | downloaded a few things, but I was unable to | use the | programs until I got a unzip file. Mike | Yes, you can download to a disk and then scan | the disk, though file uploaded are usually | checked for virus. You can add that extra | security by downloading to disk. - Visitor | where do you get an unzip file? Mike | Most files are "packed" together in a format | called pkzip or .zip ending. They need the | file | PKUNZIP.EXE to "unpack" them. - Visitor | gotta go, will try to return later. thanks. Mike | I uploaded the PKUNZIP.EXE here in the forum | I believe in Section 13 SW Apps. | Take care Annie. doris henderson | What is upload? | I've downloaded, but I don,'t think I've | uploaded. Mike | Doris, Upload is sending file here in the | forum. In order for you to get my | IHLESSON.ZIP file I | had to send it form my PC to here in the | forum. doris henderson | Ok, I get it! Well, now that we're on | terminology. What does RAM and HIMEM and | such | means? | by the way are you familar with LAN's Mike | Ram, Deals with the Random Access Memory of | your computer. I t deals with memory that | remains on your PC while applications run... | Programs that are big need space to run (no | to fit on your computer, that is Hard Disk | Space). | Some program require 4 meg while other like | Windows 95 will work best with 8 or 16meg. doris henderson | Oh...... Are meg's the same as bits? Mike | This effects how fast the applications run on | your PC as well. | Himem is the area reserved in Memory to run | certain programs... | Yes Meg and bits are similar... | 500 kb (kilo bytes) are really 1/2 a meg. doris henderson | So if I read that I need 8bits it's the same | as 8MB? Mike | 1,000 bits make 1 byte. | No, 8 bits is very small. 8MB means you eend | 8 meg (8,000,000) to run the program. doris henderson | So 8MB is about 8000? | Oh. Mike | Program usually run 4,8,16,32 meg ram. | 8mb is about 8,000,000 (million) doris henderson | okay, I.... think I understand. Mike | It's a learning process, I don't have all the | tech answers, just those that seem to work | for me | doris henderson | Well, so far they're working for me. Well, I | gotta go now, but thanks for the information | and | don't be surprised to "see" me in your next | lesson on Information Highways! :) Mike | Yes! Excellent! Glad to assist! doris henderson | Bye Mike | bye